[you are ] >> no, no, governor romney he's a good debater. i'm just okay. >> reporter: i'm just okay i think a lot of people would say he's a little better than just okay. do the debates really matter? sometimes they do, 1960 they established john kenny as a bonafide candidate. we remember the reagan debates and the zinger lines he had. what happened with gerald ford, and al gore losing a lot of points to george bush in 2000. we could safely say again, bill in the overall these debates don't seem to move things all that much. >> it's must-see tv for all of us, we'll be there. john roberts out there in denver. martha: joining me now is a man who has observed many debates over his career. brit hume. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, martha. >> when you see president obama sa have that awe schukes moment -- >> they always play down themselves as a debater, we see it all the time. it's tiresome, predictable and meaningless. martha: what do you think of mitt romney with regard to the debates, how ready do you think he is? >> he raised his g